Roofing Success Podcast

Episode #296

The Leadership Shift That Changes Everything with Greg Hayne

Guest: Greg Hayne

Reactive vs Proactive

About Our Guest

Guest: Greg Hayne

Company: Hayne Coaching Group

Bio

Greg Hayne has dedicated his life to challenging the status quo and finding better ways to work and live. Driven by a passion for growth and innovation, he focuses on empowering both individuals and businesses to reach their full potential. Through his “What’s Next, Navigating Life’s Transitions” online community, Greg helps people envision and step into more fulfilling chapters of their lives. In the commercial roofing industry, he leads ESE Peer Groups that educate, stimulate, and elevate performance through best practice sharing and collaborative problem-solving. By combining personal transformation with industry excellence, Greg creates meaningful, lasting impact.

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In this Episode...

Most roofing contractors don’t have a roofing problem.

They have a leadership capacity problem.

In this episode, Greg Hayne and Jim Ahlin break down what it really takes to move from reactive firefighting to proactive growth — and why the biggest obstacle to your company’s expansion is often sitting in your own chair.

If you’re a residential roofing contractor who feels stuck, overwhelmed, or plateaued, this conversation is a wake-up call.


Reactive vs. Proactive: The Mindset Shift

Most contractors start their day reactively. Emails dictate priorities. Problems control the schedule. Urgency feels constant.

But reactive leadership keeps you small.

Greg makes it clear:

“The number one obstacle to the growth of an organization is always the boss.”

Growth starts with a decision. You have to choose to expand your leadership — not just your production capacity.

Proactive growth means acting before problems explode, addressing issues faster, and intentionally developing yourself instead of waiting for circumstances to force change.


The Bowl Analogy: Increase Capacity, Not Just Output

Imagine every responsibility in your business as a bean being dropped into a bowl. Sales. HR. Customer issues. Cash flow. Production.

Eventually, the bowl fills up and the beans spill over. That’s overwhelm.

Most contractors try to manage the beans.

High-level contractors increase the size of the bowl.

The difference between a $2 million roofer and a $20 million roofer isn’t roofing knowledge. It’s leadership capacity.

If you want more revenue, you must grow your ability to handle complexity without breaking.


Trust Your Gut and Act Faster

How long have you known that a certain employee isn’t the right fit?

Most owners admit they’ve known for months — sometimes years.

Many use KPIs to delay decisions they already know they need to make. Metrics matter, but they shouldn’t be a crutch.

“You don’t need KPIs to prove what you already know.”

Proactive leaders shorten the gap between awareness and action.

The faster you address issues, the faster your company stabilizes.


Play to Your Strengths

One contractor nearly went out of business at $4 million in revenue. The advice he received was simple: get out of the office and sell.

Sales was his strength. Administration wasn’t.

Within a few years, his company grew dramatically because he aligned his role with what he naturally did best.

Too many roofing owners operate from ego instead of alignment. They try to be great at everything.

You don’t need to be the best roofer, estimator, bookkeeper, and operations manager.

You need to know where you’re strongest and build around it.


Communication Urgency Wins

Communication came up repeatedly in this discussion.

The best contractors respond quickly — even if the answer is “I don’t know yet.”

If you have time to read the email, you have time to reply.

Great communication:

  • Sets expectations upfront
  • Addresses common concerns before they’re asked
  • Moves faster than the rumor mill

Poor communication at the top creates poor communication throughout the company.

Culture follows leadership.


Profit Protects You in Tough Markets

Margins have tightened in many markets. More competition. More bidders. More uncertainty.

Stronger contractors — those running higher EBITDA — can weather those cycles.

They’re not forced to take bad jobs just to survive. They choose their work instead of chasing it.

Profit isn’t greed. It’s protection.

And high profitability starts with disciplined leadership, not lucky markets.


Entrepreneurship Is Lonely — Unless You Build Community

The most successful contractors in peer groups aren’t always the smartest.

They’re the most willing to say:

“I don’t know.”

That humility creates growth.

Entrepreneurship can feel isolating. Surrounding yourself with other owners who understand the pressures accelerates learning and reduces costly mistakes.


Final Reflection

If you want proactive growth in your roofing business:

  • Grow your leadership capacity
  • Act faster on what you already know
  • Play to your strengths
  • Communicate with urgency
  • Invest in yourself

Your business will not outgrow you.

If you want a bigger company, become a bigger leader.

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FAQs: Roofing Business Takeaways from This Episode

In many cases, the bottleneck is not the market or your crew — it’s leadership capacity. If you are overwhelmed, reactive, or hesitant to make difficult decisions, your company will plateau. Growth requires expanding your ability to handle complexity, delegate effectively, and act decisively.
Create intentional thinking time. Schedule distraction-free “clarity breaks” to evaluate recurring issues and root causes. Proactive leadership means solving problems before they explode and shortening the time between recognizing an issue and addressing it.
KPIs are valuable tools, but they shouldn’t be used to delay decisions you already know need to be made. If your instincts tell you someone is not aligned with your standards or culture, metrics will likely confirm it. Strong leaders trust their judgment and act promptly.
As fast as possible. Even if you do not have a complete answer, acknowledge the request and set clear expectations for follow-up. Prompt communication builds trust and differentiates you from competitors who respond slowly.
High-profit contractors typically play to their strengths, protect margins, and make disciplined leadership decisions. They are not forced to chase every job. Strong profitability gives them flexibility during economic downturns and allows them to choose better projects.
Peer groups provide accountability, perspective, and honest feedback from other owners facing similar challenges. They reduce isolation and help you see blind spots faster. Often, the biggest breakthroughs come from being willing to say, “I don’t know,” and learning from others.
Self-awareness. The willingness to recognize your limitations, play to your strengths, and seek help when needed is often the defining factor between companies that stall and those that scale.

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